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Why do we do what we do? What’s the point of church, anyway?

The questions flood in… Why do we do church the way we do? Why do we take communion? Why do we need a sermon? Why do we all sit in pews or face the front or have microphones? Can we ask questions? Can we talk back? For what purpose do we stand when we sing and sit down when we are done… on cue? Why is it that some people clap their hands and some people put them in their pockets? Why do we pass around an offering plate? How is it that we have come to be this way?

Many of us will have very different answers to all of these questions and so many other questions as well. We know why we do what we do and we feel there are quite good reasons for doing so. Many of our rituals and customs work very well for us, as we have grown up with them and find comfort in knowing that it will be the same, or similar, next week.

But for a person on the outside, looking in… a person who has not grown up in the church, and in fact, would rather have nothing to do with “church,” these practices and rituals are like an alien planet. “How could I fit there?” one might ask. “Why would I even think twice about going to a place that does all these things that are so removed from my normal life?” I must say I tend to agree.

Before any of you think that I am suggesting throwing out these things that many hold dear, relax… Traditional church works for many and that is good. An increasing number of people though, are finding that it does not work. Let’s face it… the culture is moving faster than we are. Some of us are called to think creatively about how we might jump ahead and meet people where they are.

Our Sunday evening Gathering will be discussing, questioning, and wondering together some of these many questions. I’ll also be blogging regularly around these questions as well. I hope that we might, together find a way to be intentional about ALL that we do together and have reasons for doing what we do. If we don’t, why do them?

Took that one down…

I took down the post from Jesus Manifesto… granted it was a pretty hilarious piece, but as it was 100% satire, I didin’t really feel that anyone deserved to be written as having said certain things. At least not in the context of issues they didn’t express. Here’s the deal with profanity and the emerging church:

For the most part, folks don’t really care… and seriously, should we? I have a lot of emerging Christian friends who swear more than any person I know (Christian or not)… yet they are more solid in their faith and more level headed than many Christians I know (Big Phil!!). I think it is a general understanding that we really have more important things to worry about.

Personally, I don’t swear that much… not because I have an issue with people who do, but because I can usually find more gracious ways of saying what I am trying to say. But there are days when certain words just don’t cut it. It is nice to not feel guilty about swearing. I probably wouldn’t swear around folks I don’t know… and I definitely wouldn’t go into a conservative community and let loose a string of profanity.

There are a lot of right-wing leaders who speak out against the emerging church and their use of profanity, but I don’t want to put words in their mouths… They have a lot of issues with most of the values that we adhere to… and frankly, I will let them say what they want. I don’t care. In fact, most of the people that I feel are important to be around and share life with, would probably feel more set apart than not by the issues that many right-wing folks accuse.

Enough said… it’s hard enough for me to write about these things. There are more important things to be concerned with.

Purpose of church… to objectify women?!?

Gosh, don’t ask how I keep coming across these crazy videos of churches. Unlike the cell phone thing (which was not for real), I think this one is seriously for real. I wish going to church guaranteed me a beautiful wife… even a girlfriend. I don’t really think it is that easy, and it saddens me that a church would use it as a marketing scheme. I would throw up if someone tried to use my future wife as the reason to be a part of my community. Wow!!

I am not always this cynical about church (or as Bill dahl says, “the C-Bomb)… and I am not really even in a phase right now, but these things are too good (or nuts) to pass up. I will admit, though, that it is because of things like this that the C-bomb gives people such a bad taste in their mouths.

This whole cell phone in church thing… bigger than just distractions

cellphone-3.gifI wanted to do a whole post dedicated to this idea of what our community worship experience might be like in regards to distractions like cell phones and kids. I know people may feel strongly about this and I wonder if we thought about our understanding of God and how he is present to us, whether it might inform our feelings about noise in our “service.” My thoughts on this have been greatly effected by my experiences at Solomon’s Porch in Minneapolis, where we say, leave your cell phones on… God might have an important message for you from someone who is calling, and please be sure to answer it if it rings. Also, if a child is crying, we will stop and listen because every voice is valued in our community. Every voice. The idea is that if we are going to come together and bring our lives together, celebrating who we are and what is happening in the far corners of our city, we don’t want to put all that life aside and pretend that it doesn’t have a significant effect on how we worship together.

cellphone-6.gifIt seems that if we think of our worship time as something where information is imparted on us (scripture, the pastor’s insight, music, drama, whatever…), than any distraction from that process is a bad thing. Our “services” really are geared up for this sort of interaction. The voices that are valued are the people who have the microphone. Everyone is facing one person. We are sitting in chairs and in a way that is made for receiving. At Solomon’s Porch, our setting was more like a living room. Lots of couches, everyone sitting in the round. We were forced to see each other. Every voice is valued because we believe that God speaks through us all and through each other’s lives. Because of this cell phones and kids are not a big deal. Granted there is an element of respect that is needed… but we hope to not negate the life that each person brings to our gathering.

cellphone-11.gifBeyond it being a matter of how we view our weekly worship times and what we think about community values, this idea of God speaking to us is very important. I wonder if our weekly worship times are the best places for us to learn how to worship God in silence. First, I think that the silence through which we experience God is often times more an internal silence and peace than an external state of being. This is something that should perhaps be considered and practiced in a much more intentional setting than a hustle and bustle worship gathering. Also, God’s speaking to us is not something that we get to tailor and manipulate into our own comfortable preference… Think about it. What is the first thing that comes to our minds when we are in the middle of a prayer and someone’s phone goes off? Do we think, “Ugh… turn that off! How dare they forget to set it to vibrate!!” Or can we warmly smile and let them know that that’s okay… go ahead and answer it. I mean what if someone really needs them to answer it?

cellphone-9.gifMy main point here is that there are a lot of reasons why we insist on people putting their phones off. There are a lot of reasons why we want kids to shut up. Many of these reasons are unconscious, but when we think about it, perhaps we find it to be very revealing of how we think about God God’s-self. I am very interested in others’ thoughts about all this. Maybe one question that may help is to think about it is that we are afraid of when it comes to cell phones, kids, etc. What’s at risk?

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Leave your cell phone on in church… or else!!

OK, this video is unbelievable! I really hope that our “churches” can avoid this type of “love.” Personally, and maybe it is an emerging church thing, I say leave those cell phones on! And let the kids run around… I would hate for us to think that we need to set our lives aside when we gather together. Let’s be real, right?